tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6780195401099519720.post889277363284753274..comments2024-03-01T02:57:28.885-08:00Comments on Glorious Little Soldiers: Thought Experiment Big Andyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17235478427317774609noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6780195401099519720.post-80248445621613208942014-02-09T04:17:29.234-08:002014-02-09T04:17:29.234-08:00Sean- Good points- and yes Dammned if I knwo- but ... Sean- Good points- and yes Dammned if I knwo- but in the WRG days we did both. As a general rule points games were head to head affiairs and the everyday change of wargames life then. Refights and larger multi-player games were something a bit special (we re-fought the Hasting campaign in the late 70s and the Arnhem campaign as a map Kriegspiel ) but I didn't get the true taste for them until the 80s when the mags started to appear with the now supposedly unpopular history in them.<br /> Your point re WHAB is however well made- the same accuation could be levelled at FOW. Big Andyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17235478427317774609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6780195401099519720.post-82779726494517829852014-02-08T06:12:44.807-08:002014-02-08T06:12:44.807-08:00I'm pretty sure Robbie is being modest in that...I'm pretty sure Robbie is being modest in that I seem to remember him having an article in MW a few years ago refighting either Agincourt or Crecy in 6mm using Irregular Miniatures. Iain Kay made some figures especially for it?<br />I would point the finger at the effect Warhammer Historical had on the scene back in the day. People who had only ever played with Lizards and Orcs were now collecting Romans and Normans. They didn't let history get in the way of things though. It was all about maximising the potential of 2000pts with whatever nastiness the competitive players could come up with in order to win.<br /><br />But then again, was that any different to those playing the more 'cerebral' WRG offerings?<br /><br />Damned if I know.<br /><br />SeanSeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13326904214624189171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6780195401099519720.post-66664059511542675622014-02-08T01:26:36.959-08:002014-02-08T01:26:36.959-08:00Robbie- good points but I'm starting to think...Robbie- good points but I'm starting to think that even the "general wargaming public" has less interest in battles than it used to have or perhaps its just those who write for magazines.Big Andyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17235478427317774609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6780195401099519720.post-16071433939369944492014-02-07T10:23:32.289-08:002014-02-07T10:23:32.289-08:00Andy,
I never had chance to reply to your post, bu...Andy,<br />I never had chance to reply to your post, but I will now. I was really talking about the well known to the general public battles,ie Waterloo, Crecy, Cannae etc.<br /> There are many battles in the true sense of the word that havent really been covered. One that springs to mind was a game John and I did many years ago, the battle of Gniew which was a Polish affair against the Swedes.Luckily for that battle I had obtained the research by letter from a really helpful polish chap. The trouble with most of the battles you mention is the need for research, ie reading. In this age of being spoonfed the majority of people dont want to waste time! on researching they want to game. <br /> I know a lot of wargamers still take pride in researching their games, but like in many things now younger people have been brought up with a superficial knowledge of matters. God I sound like an old fart. One of my favourite series of articles in the wargaming press was Stuart Asquiths battles of the English Civil War, they were well written and covered some quite obscure affairs. <br /> Why dont you write a series about the 100 years war, you know you want to.<br />Good post.<br />Thanks Robbie. <br />Independentwargamesgrouphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07019172667119107650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6780195401099519720.post-10795552007864884912014-02-06T06:14:08.534-08:002014-02-06T06:14:08.534-08:00Yes so there is - I think the Dunes has been done(... Yes so there is - I think the Dunes has been done( but I might be wrong) but not the fighting on Hispaniola and Jamaica. Also what about all the fighting in the Fronde- Vae Victis did it as a game but I've never seen it in English Big Andyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17235478427317774609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6780195401099519720.post-36482188397446245302014-02-06T03:04:47.323-08:002014-02-06T03:04:47.323-08:00As always happens, I immediately thought of two fr...As always happens, I immediately thought of two from the ECW period as soon as I poste - The battle of the Dunes and there's a battle in the Caribean too if I'm not mistaken?Zabadakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05649765350412145174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6780195401099519720.post-89739521987351885932014-02-06T01:31:58.375-08:002014-02-06T01:31:58.375-08:00Joe - Exactly - another ACW came to mind- Big Beth... Joe - Exactly - another ACW came to mind- Big Bethel again its in battles and leader and has been in Military Iluustrated but not one of "our" mags.<br /> I'd also add the battle of Lincelles in Flanders- 1792 or thereabouts. Its a Grenadier Guards Battle Honour on their colours <br /> It seem that the days of the "Battle articles are long gone- I'm sure you remeber those articles with OBs and perhaps a uniform pic or two that were almost de- rigeur in the 80s and early 90s .<br /> I'm going to add battles to the list as I think of em but again without looking at any books. Big Andyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17235478427317774609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6780195401099519720.post-43502720692356555772014-02-05T19:43:53.292-08:002014-02-05T19:43:53.292-08:00I can't really comment on most of the battles ...I can't really comment on most of the battles you mention as they're mostly pre-musket, but I do think you're probably right.<br />The problem is that most battles that are "well known" are because of what I would call coffee-table book histories. <br />There are many engagements of the late18th Century that are rarely (if ever) covered too. Most of course have to be researched, which seems to be too much of a chore for many. <br />Balls Bluff (an ACW battle as you will no doubt well know) was covered by many magazines regularly, probably because it was a small brigade sized action (as per Dranesville) the had a brief (but adequate) description of it in "Battles and Generals" accompanied by one of the few mapsthe volumes contain of battles.<br />I suspect that those battles that aren't written up demand a little more research than folk are prepared to do. (I think you could make a similar argument with uniforms, flags and other wargame related research.)Zabadakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05649765350412145174noreply@blogger.com